John, John

In 1821, they were christened 49 days and about the same number of miles apart – and their mothers were called Mary.

Their wives were also called Mary and the couples chose the same names for three of their children.

Perhaps we should not be surprised that the two families became tangled on the FamilySearch Shared Tree.

The first thing I did this morning was to extract all Yorkshire Carters from the 1881 Census as an Excel file and sort them by birth year, first for “John” and then for “Mary”. It was no surprise to see the men “twinned”. Three hale Marys, all widows, separated the wives.

Interesting that George should be living next door to his parents. (His wife and children are on the next page.)

Huntingdon John laboured on the railways for much of his life while Flamborough John worked the land. The agricultural labourer’s life would be shorter by sixteen years.

The railway man was a widower for seventeen years and lived for most of that time in Norton with his youngest son Thompson, daughter in law Sarah Ellen, and five grandchildren. The family’s move to Norton shortened the distance between the two Johns at death by almost twenty miles.

Efforts are being made on the Shared Tree to tease the two families apart. I am not acting alone, so a certain amount of chaos can be expected. I will let you know when I think it is safe to pay the Marys and Johns a visit.

Nature Morte 16 · Catshark

Small-spotted catshark, Scyliorhinus canicula, Filey Sands


The first-named on the trio of stones (yesterday’s post) were seemingly rooted in different places.


This William, born in Gristhorpe, farmed Muston Grange for most of his life. His unmarried son, also William, continued to work this land after his father’s death. I have yet to determine who the parents of William Senior were. At the time Junior was at Muston Grange, so too was William Stilborn Foster, one of the farmer sons of Glaves. The two are not related by blood in my Filey Genealogy database, as presently constituted, so I’m wondering how the Grange came to be divided.


In most sources, she is “Edith” and was born in Kirby Misperton. In the 1841 census she is recorded as “Elizabeth” at Allinston Lane End, Barmston where, at the age of 84, her husband William was farming with the help of three male labourers and a female farm servant. Edith(a) died in Barmston in the first month of 1842, and William in the last, in Filey.